Repressess

[Red]

Just thought i'd see what people think...

When tunes on Ruboy Records, Speed Sadd, etc.. come out, How does it affect the original value ???

Just because it has came out on re-edition dosent mean that the Original is easier to find or cheaper !!!

All it is, is an excuse for people to get tunes cheaper, people see it that they can get the original cheaper.

Well i dont think this is right, if you dont want to pay the price for the tune, buy the re-edition, repress, white label, what ever

Does anyone agree ???

Cheers

Red

[DJ PUDGE]

i agree with red it doesnt make the original easier to find if they get brought out on ruboy etc, for instance the original linda and co was worth 100 bar + now people dont even pay 15 bar for it its still hard to find and you can tell the difference from the orig and the repress thats my opinion anyway, the bottom line is originals are still hard to find after theyve been repressed etc.

cheers pudge.

[dooban]

If tunes get repressed the demand for them goes down - a lot of people don't mind having represses, I don't personally. Coz of that the die hard collectors don't have to pay as much.

In my experience records go down by about 20 quid if they're pressed at least. eg korpus - liberty used to go for 65 about, now goes for 45 max.

The records are prolly better quality coz they're newer and less worn any way, no one in the scene looks after their records properly any way when was the last time you cleaned your whole collection like your meant to?

it depends if your a collector or DJ, djs buy the vinyl for the song not the vinyl itself like collectors do!

[craigy]

I think they do seem to loose their value. Its a bit shockin.... but I can only get 45 for La Pin now, when 6 months ago I was getting £90+. I think when tunes get repressed, the originals are sometimes easier to find, because people might want to sell their originals... so more copies are for sale.
Just my opinion like. Originals are still worth having.

[Buxton]

i agree the originals do seem to lose there value, for example people were offering me good money for pildo, and now that its been pressed no one even seems to want it, i think these presses r also starting to wreck the scene, cos soon everyones gunna have the same tunes, if its the orig, repress or a white.

[chris]

i think all represses are shit people buy them because they cant get the origanal
i wouldent want any repress because the sound quality its much shiter than the origanal

[djreefa]

aye dooban is exactly right like even tho none of us like 2 admit it with our waxas lol.

if ya think about b4 linda n co was pressed, the only way u cud get the tune was on original and the demand for it was high as fuck, so people were forkin out loads of cash for it. but then when it gets pressed you can get as many copies of it as you want, meaning theres no need to get the original just to have the tune, which means the demand for the original is far less so peole wont pay as much cash for it. if that made sense :D

[Choc-Ov-Oxy]

i am ok wiv the represses as long as they hav got a label on it n not a shitty white coz they have got copyrite off the producers 2 go out n press it. so wotz the point goin out spendin up 2 100quid for a tune that u can get wiv permission off the producer 4 bout 15quid. the tune is stil the same jus the label is different. ne 1 else agree wiv is coz i dont fink i the only 1

[Dj Climax]

Represses And White Labels Are All Shite

People Who Buy Them Only Buy Them Coz They Cannit Get The Original !!!

The People Who Say They Are Good If They Could Get There Hands On The Original For A Good Price They Wudnt Buy Them Either !!!

[HOGGINS]

i agree with sum represses like rhytm and drums been done on next , rough trade and rose records and theres a couple of others like that , but these ruboy one's aren't worth nothing in my eyes there not as bad as white labels but not far off , they make the tunes not rare cos they make 1000's of them unlike the original's which they only made hundreds ov , a couple of years ago we didn't really have this problem but nowdays its a f'in big problem and theres nothing we can do about because people like ruboy and scott know they can make a lot of money off it and every one wants money lol .

hope it makes sense in a way lol

[IlOgic]

I agree with ya Hoggins a few years back we didnt have this problem because the spanish scene hadnt really kicked off big time in the northeast the past 2 years more and more people have become djs because they can get records quite easily these days. Am ok with most represses aslong as there not whites like DooBan said theres 2 types of people theres collectors and theres djs like when linda & co was brought out for the first time there wasnt many copies pressed so the demand for that tune was amazing

now look at it from the record producers point wouldnt you repress the tune if you knew you could make thosands?

Its not just the northeast who are after records the rave scene is picking up in loads of countries what happens in a few years when most of the world is listening to rave not repress the tune just cause its rare?? thats just like saying were not gonna make anymore britney spears cds cause we have already brought out the original

Rave is just like any other kind of music why should we pay daft prices just cause we like it?

PS

heres proof that its picking up even the japanese have makina shops these days :p
http://www.guhroovy.com/

[chris]

dj climax
noes what heys talking about exsacly all represses are shit why buy them they piss easy to get eney one can buy them
i cant understand why people have there boxes full of represses
if i had eney represes i would sell them straight away for no more than 10£s
because there all shit

[DJ Jee]

whats the score with all these ppl sayin whites n represses are shit...i just dont get it to be honest...i know whites are never as good quality as the original releses but surely wen a tune gets the repress treatment it helps to keep the scene alive as more and more djs can get the tunes they want...i understand that die hard collectors get pissed at represses cos the demand for the original goes down...but i think that whites n represses are always good news to djs...even if they are not the same quality...the more djs we have droppin the wkd tracks (even whites) then i can only see the scene getting bigger... i personally have a few tunes that are whites and represses and im glad that they were re-released in various ways...now i can mix wkd tunes that i wud never be able to mix payin £100+ for 1 tune....just cos makina is a smaller scebne than say house n trance... doesnt mean we shud have to pay daft prices for good tunes.... just my opinion like.... and i hope it all made sense !! lol

[Red]

Just Thought Ad Add To Me Post

I Think Actuall Represses Bring Value Down

Eg Legend Protec

The Ones In Original Covers Etc

Red

[dj quake]

represses r great for ppl like me that wont waste silly money on a record.. if the tunes wicked, then it doesnt bother me if its a white or an original...

[DJ Jee]

represses r great for ppl like me that wont waste silly money on a record.. if the tunes wicked, then it doesnt bother me if its a white or an original...


ah nice 1 m8...i agree whole heartedly with that statement... if a tune is wkd...white label or not...its worth havin in ur box !!

[MDJ]

IMO...

re-editions on speedsad and ruboys best selection make the music available to everyone, not just people with alot of money - this can only be a good thing, but they should sell at the price of a regular new release.


whites are illegal, and although they make tunes available to everyone, they are a threat to the industry as no money goes to the producers...

... although -as far as i am aware - it is legal to make one copy for personal use, and there are websites which you can send mp3's too and they will produce one white label especially for you.

[dj quake]

ah nice 1 m8...i agree whole heartedly with that statement... if a tune is wkd...white label or not...its worth havin in ur box !!

aaahh im glad ya agree... i thought i'd get bashed for being a stingy git LOL :p

[dj quake]

there are websites which you can send mp3's too and they will produce one white label especially for you.

really? u dont got the address do ya? cos i could get the tune pressed i made usin that :D

[DJ Jee]

really? u dont got the address do ya? cos i could get the tune pressed i made usin that :D


yea i could also do with that adress...i have a few tunes i made myself that i wouldnt mind getting pressed... its just i dont need like 400 copies of them...1 is enough lol

[MDJ]

just finding it for you.

[dj_orbit]

i av saw 1 of them sites its only about £5 per copy but the minimum u have to get made is like 50 plus u gota get the plates made which costs over £100

[M-C-P-R-O-S-P-E-C-T]

I Well Agree M8 Originals Sound Louder And Have Better Sound Quality Much Better Well Worth The Money

[MDJ]

i av saw 1 of them sites its only about £5 per copy but the minimum u have to get made is like 50 plus u gota get the plates made which costs over £100


not for this site, it specialises in one-off's strictly for personal use.

[naz-magic]

just thought id add......
the reason linda and co dropped £90+ is because it was repressed on the oringinal label, so technically, the original and repress are exactley the same whereas represses on ruboy arent they same as the original therefore the original doesnt lose so much in value!!

my opinions on the choonz is that they are only worth what you (the buyer) are willing to pay. its like supply and demand....when a new choon comes out with "waxa" status, everyone wants to buy it and therefore are willing to part with more £££ in order to attain it, so the benchmark value for a choon goes up as the demand goes up. thats how people on here can easily turn round and say "oh such and such on max music is a 75-80 bar choon". but thats only because you (the buyers) lead yourselves to beleive its worth that purely because 'the radgey down the lane with the glass eye and 3 legged dog bought it off me mate mad eddie for 75-80 bar'

doesnt mean im willing to pay 75-80 bar for a choon purely coz sum fools got there eyeballs firmly gouged out paying that price in the first place

my opinion anyway ;)

<<NAZ-MAGIC>>

[Haston]

i think all represses are shit people buy them because they cant get the origanal
i wouldent want any repress because the sound quality its much shiter than the origanal

Hmm well thats bollocks for a start, yes the white label bootlegs are crap quality, but the proper presses are no worse than the original, maybe even better if they've been re-mastered. I dont think represses are damaging the scene either... there are thousands upon thousands of tunes out there, so I cant see how everyuone will be playing the same stuff. I can see the point if you are a record collector that wants originals.. but if you are a DJ you just want the tune to play out, simple as.

You'll find anyway that most Spanish, apart from maybe this years stuff.. is poor quality anyway.. eg if you try to mix an uptempo into a Scott brown track it'll sound weak as piss.

[Haston]

just thought id add......
the reason linda and co dropped £90+ is because it was repressed on the oringinal label, so technically, the original and repress are exactley the same whereas represses on ruboy arent they same as the original therefore the original doesnt lose so much in value!!

my opinions on the choonz is that they are only worth what you (the buyer) are willing to pay. its like supply and demand....when a new choon comes out with "waxa" status, everyone wants to buy it and therefore are willing to part with more £££ in order to attain it, so the benchmark value for a choon goes up as the demand goes up. thats how people on here can easily turn round and say "oh such and such on max music is a 75-80 bar choon". but thats only because you (the buyers) lead yourselves to beleive its worth that purely because 'the radgey down the lane with the glass eye and 3 legged dog bought it off me mate mad eddie for 75-80 bar'

doesnt mean im willing to pay 75-80 bar for a choon purely coz sum fools got there eyeballs firmly gouged out paying that price in the first place

my opinion anyway ;)

<<NAZ-MAGIC>>

Yeah I agree with this.. I dont think a tune can have a fixed value.. it just depends on the buyers valuation of it. One tune may be more special to one person than another person.. all about personal taste innit!

[naz-magic]

to add to what hatson said....the only fixed price a choon can have is the original RRP which in most cases is between 7-20 bar. anyone making a profit on top of that should take what they are offered, none of this "ive been offered 50 so if anyone can offer 60 its theres" bollocks, if you want to sell to the highest bidder stick your choons on e-bay!!!!

:D

<<NAZ-MAGIC>>

[Dj Climax]

lol the thing wot makes me laugh is all the ppl on here think that if you buy originals you pay high prices for them what is total bull shit.

originals can be bought just as cheap or cheaper than these shit presses being made u just have to look.

[Daz-G]

Yeah your right there Nick ;)

[dooban]

Whats that about ive been looking for years and havent found shit, ive found them cheaper than in uk (which aint hard) but i wouldnt say their cheaper than represses???)

[croucher]

repressin tunes is bent as fuck if you ask me like,
some rare tunes a cople of years ago are worth shit now.
Originals are much better in sound quality and thats why proper dj's and collecters who dj in clubs buy them cos they sound better!!
Its an arse nowadays to buy a tune though, cos if you buy one you think why are they sellin it? It could be gettin repressed, repressing tunes is gonna spoil the scene soon cos there will be no such thing as a rare tune and everybody will have the same baked tunes.
All the pasties and burneris tunes are gettin repressed too, thats game over 2, pildo,adreniline etc. All of them are mint at the moment but in a few months they will be shit cos people just hammer them.
They'll all end up like drop the base, happymoment etc.......

[mental raver]

Yer i dont lyk repress's either but iv got a gd few tunes that not a chance will get pressed now, I.E speedloader, poin of no return & mountain of king.. stuff lyk that. But i still rekon the 'pressed' version of linda & co. is exackly the same quality as the origi. Maybe them white lable are shit quality yer but that linda & co had been pressed by a little company or wotever, Ya can see that by the lable an everything. That company wud of had the original and jus duplicated it, not loosing no quality wot so ever so in that case i dont mind buyin it. I rekon youv jus gota find the border line between originals that you know are safe from getin pressed an jus facing facts that more of the new makina style tunes nowadays are getin pressed. Plus more and more people are getin pressin machines so thats why more of the newer tunes are getin fuked!!

Nuff Rattlein On !

mental raver

[Daz-G]

Dooban, Your not looking hard enough then m8! Trust me they are out there!

Croucher, You know next to nothin! As Haston explained earlier in this post legit represses on ruboy recs etc will more than likely be better sound quality than the original release, like it or not this is a fact!

90% of white label bootlegs are shit sound quality coz they are recorded from MP3's, legit represses will be recorded from DAT or somethin simelar so the sound quality is not effected.

At the end of the day its how you mix em that counts not if there originals!!!

[JORD-W]

Ryes White Labels Are Shit But I Bet If I Came On Here Wif 500 Copies Of Maui Fell Me Tonight To Sell A 5a Each Most People Wud Buy 1

[skottie c]

thhis is brought up from a canny while ago isnt it haha

ppl wudnt buy maui white label

coz white labels r pap

[Daz-G]

Ryes White Labels Are Shit But I Bet If I Came On Here Wif 500 Copies Of Maui Fell Me Tonight To Sell A 5a Each Most People Wud Buy 1


doubt it like mate, ur more likely to get a slap n a load of grief than out else

[DJ_ECLIPSE]

lol. 2 rites

[Red]

fuck me, i made this thread nearly a year ago now is it lol

jords a grave digger now

[JORD-W]

lol i i was lookin at ka the threads been started this 1 caught me eye

[DJBeaton06]

shock if it caught ya eyes cos ov the word represses lol haha