mastering

[mcblaze]

ive just about finished a tune, all i need to do is sort the envalopes on my bassline, but how are you supposed to master a makina track i have good speekers but i dont know wer to start ??

[Richie]

Bump it..could do with some info on this mastering malarky...

[0104]

send me the tracks and ill do it for u , nowt special jus eq it for ya and maybe effects if it needs it

[mcblaze]

send me the tracks and ill do it for u , nowt special jus eq it for ya and maybe effects if it needs it


i wanna lern for ma self m8 :541:

[sokkydoo]

ive just about finished a tune, all i need to do is sort the envalopes on my bassline, but how are you supposed to master a makina track i have good speekers but i dont know wer to start ??


send it away for a professional job.

[Dj RoB ST]

to master a track u need something similar in terms out kit to play it out on that its going to be played on, so if its a tune for a club idealy u need some proper top club speakers, thats why u need to get it done professionaly if u want it to sound professional, espieally if u want to cut it onto a dub plate as they are all sorts of issues with eqs, frequencies and effects that come into play for vinyl that your probally not even aware of.

[OOZ3Y]

how much wud it be to get it done professionaly like

[mcblaze]

i have a pair of good studio monitors i cant get my head round de essers and compressers n that

[Dj RoB ST]

how much wud it be to get it done professionaly like
DEPENDS ON THE PERSON DONT IT, HOW MUCH WORK THEY GOT ON AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE. WITH MUSIC PRODUCERS THEY AINT NO MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM WAGES, ALL BOILS DOWN TO HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO DO IT FOR.

[Deejayy]

Obviously if you want it on vinyl the studio will master it for you using proper hardcore n shit but for personal choons there are ways to do it yourself.

If you want a quick mastering job there is a program called T-racks that does the job.

Before you start to master your tracks get on the fruityloops website and learn about the EQ's and Compressors. All samples are different volumes and a compressor helps put the individual samples at the right levels. but you can read all a bout that on the fruity site http://www.flstudio.com/help/ and going down the list n choose compressor

One thing i found is that applying a very very light reverb to alot of the samples, too much and it will sound like your choon is being banged out in a church hall, but keep them minimal and it makes your samples sound clear and professional... i usually apply a light reverb to claps, percussions and all types of hats. at the very least you need a compressor on the kick, bass and the multiband compressor on the master of the track.

If i get time i'll write up some typical frequency settings for all the different types of samples.

[sokkydoo]

heres my 2 cents`

who needs masterng ....there is a reason for the track "unlimited"

as.... its hasnt been limited (mastered) it got wrote on the cd and the name just stook.

if you send a well mixed tune (forcer went into a few tips n tricks up there) to a mastering house. they will need to do minimal work. i said send it away.. because they have the ears, (dynamicly)
if you try and do it yourself, ull probs end up making it sound worse, On some systems . (eg. club , house , radio) the whole point of mastering is to make sure the tune sounds the same on all systems.

and professional mastering for a dubplate is fucking useless, cos the qualitys abserloute shite. a wouldent waste me time and effort considering mastering to go to a dub or so called "never wear one off" vinyls

but if you want to have a go (its always good to have a bash) , may i sugest u try the waves plugins.
the ultramaximisers. there supposed to be one of the best around.

if the choons good, its good , no matter wether its mastered or not.

another point.
anything sounds good on decent nearfields. Play it thru ur telly.

[mcblaze]

rite ive ive sorted out my top end small reverb ect ect but the bottom end or bass was sounding muddy as fuck so i decided to side chain it it hellped but my bass line isent soundin as sharp as it could as tips

[mcblaze]

oh and i havent used reverb and delay on the bass it sounds nasty

[Shanksy]

best way i can think is to get a vst named bbe sonic maximizer an use its mastering pre sets, this is a wicked tool for beefing your shit up, i used to use the pre sets on this but now i just fuck around with the knobs (no homo!) til i get the sound i want, professional mastering will tear a whole in your pocket an i see it as pointless unless your tunes are pushing shit loads of sales. A Decent pair of studio monitors is essential when mixing down your final product too, a nice affordabl pair i can reccomend are m-audios studiopro 3's real nice sound at under 100 pund.

[Deejayy]

i would only really use reverb on the bass for slow trance stuff to help blend it in, but with hardcore n makina n stuff its short n punchy so you dont want a reverb sound over the top of the bassline, delay can give it a bit more power if you turn the delay down and have it ping-pong'n from left to right speakers.

The way i make my bass sound powerful is layer more than one synth.
1. low subwoofer type bass sound. this is the type of sound that justs a low rumble that you may not hear on shitty speakers with no bass
2. not always needed, but i usually just tweak my main bass sound to give it a 'fatter' sound, then turn it down slightly so that your main bass is still the highlight.
3. your main bass sound, nice and loud over the other 2

The way it works for me is that you've still got your bass sound, which is the sound you want, but the other 2 give it that bit of extra power. keep messing with the volumes of the 3 to get it right.

Layering is a good tip for almost anything really, i find using only one synth or sample for each part makes it sound pretty flat... however, don't over do it because if your creating makina, it's pretty flat anyway and basic doesn't always mean bad.

[mcblaze]

any 1 wanna add sum eq tips??????????

[djtonyeldorado]

master bat ing

[mcblaze]

Step one
Layer one.
A dry bottom end around 40 - 80hz , play around with eq and Audiorealism Bassline.



Layer Two.
A mid bass with some delay and reverb around 125hz, play around with eq, delay, reverb and some stereoexpansion to get that egde that cuts through the mix, and also bring some warmth, Novation V-station is good here.

Layer Three.
A high bass with more delay and reverb around 4000-8000hz, not much of this, just to get some air and clarity and fills the mix more. Here i use ReFX Beast, got that sharp and wide sound.

Step two
And its important to listen so that the kick gets the room in the bottom that it needs.To make it a bit more present Cut around cut at 35z AND give it a little boost at the same range 35hz, then you can cut at 150hz to take away some of the rumble, last you can give it a small boost around 2500hz to get it more agressive.

I dont compress the kick, but i depends on how good the kick is, but i usually dont.
Step three
Here i have created a RETURN/SEND track in my sequencer (Live 5), and i name it BASSCOMP. Put in a compressor, here i use Waves Renaissance Compressor with these settings.

Manuel/Electro/Smooth
Attack: 0.50
Release: 80.3
Treshhold: -8.0
Ratio: 8.09
Gain: 0.0