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7th October 2015 #11
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Problem I have with cdj's (and I own 2 of them myself and have done for many many years) is that music is too readily available for everyone. Back in the 90's when I first got decks if you wanted to play the music you had to source and buy the record and I like that because it means people have different music potentially to other people and I used to enjoy the whole hunting process standing in a record shop for an hour in front of a turntable with a huge stack of records skipping through trying to look outside the box and find stuff you aint heard anybody else play. When downloads came in and that and people started ripping vinyl and uploading it onto the internet imo it belittles peoples collections and the effort they've gone to in actually building their collection. A kid can come along who's only had decks for a matter of months and have pretty much all the stuff I've got but it's took me 20+ years to get it all. Technology is good but at the same time annoying in some respects.
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8th October 2015 #13
Aye that's another thing I was going to say in my last post but couldn't be arsed to type out. For someone to be a DJ with vinyl you're looking at them owning hundreds, maybe thousands of records. That alone proves they have a real interest in music because it's a lot of effort to get the collection together. With digital you could buy a laptop on a Friday morning and download enough tunes for a weekend's worth of sets by Friday night.
8th October 2015 #14
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8th October 2015 #15
Not at all, I’ve already said I don’t care either way whether someone uses vinyl or not as long as they play good music. I do personally prefer using vinyl, but that’s just because I find it more fun than using CDJs because it’s more hands on. If I DJ’d in clubs I would almost certainly use CDJs because of how much more convenient it is.
My point was just that someone having a big record collection shows that they have a long-term passion for music. The more music you know the more good music you’re likely to know so in that sense I think having a big collection does fill dancefloors.
I agree that digital opens up a wider choice of music and I think that’s a good thing, there are some people who make good use of the technology and again I think that’s a good thing. The problem is that by making it so accessible you don’t need to have that passion for music to become a DJ anymore. That recent film ‘We Are Your Friends’ is a perfect example of the kind of thing I’m on about. The tagline was something like “to be a DJ all you need is a laptop and a song”. (I know it’s just a stupid little film but it does represent some aspects of electronic music today.)
I think Carl Cox has something like 50,000 records, he’s been buying them since the early 80’s and there’s no way you could accuse someone like him of not being passionate about music. Maybe some of the new generation of laptop DJs are as passionate about music as the likes of him, but a lot of them won’t be (hence all the shit music they play).
8th October 2015 #16
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I jus searched for carl cox after reading that about him having 50,000 records and come across this short interview where he touches upon what your saying about tracks just being banged out quickly as mp3s...
Itís a good 20-25 years since you started. How has your own relationship with music changed in that time, and how have you changed as a person and a DJ?
More than anything else, I think Iíve managed to get back to who I was as a person. More than anything I love music, and I love peopleÖ when they make a track, when you hear that track for the first time and you know itís the result of months spent in the studio creating that record. Rather than Ďright, Iíve got three hours to make a tuneí, then bang, itís on YouTube, next thing all the right DJs are playing it. Whereís the soul and the love and the passion going into that? Thereís isnít [any]. Itís just Ďif you make this, people will danceí. And thatís OK, if you want to get to the next stage of your career very quickly, but nothing stands out as a classic Ė nothing gets nurtured into the sort of track where you remember where you were the first time you heard it. I suppose for me, I am 52 years old nearly Ė thatís three decades as a DJ, and Iím still as passionate about it as I ever was, but most of the people Iím sharing bills will now werenít born when I started, so theyíre not gonna know what it was like for me when I started.
13th December 2016 #17
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